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  <title type="html">Packetizer Forums: T.38 / Fax over IP (FoIP) and V.150-series / Modem over IP (MoIP)</title>
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  <updated>2014-01-24T06:38:12Z</updated>
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    <author><name>abby741</name></author>
    <title type="text">Re: t38FaxMaxDatagram (H.245)</title>
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    <updated>2014-01-24T06:38:12Z</updated>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Thanks for the info paul, nice thread.&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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    <author><name>paulej</name></author>
    <title type="text">Re: t38FaxMaxDatagram (H.245)</title>
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    <updated>2009-12-18T19:56:44Z</updated>
    <published>2009-12-18T19:56:44Z</published>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;This parameter represents the largest size of the datagram that can be accepted by the receiving device.  This does not count RTP headers, for example.  There is debate as to whether this counts redundancy, but I think the general consensus is that it does not consider redundancy.  So, if a device that advertises 72 octets also supports redundancy can actually receive larger UDP packets (containing the primary and redundant data), but the intent is that the primary fax data would not consume more than 72 octets.&lt;br/&gt;
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This and many of the T.38-related parameters have been a source of confusion and, for that reason, there are currently three  efforts underway to work to clarify how T.38 is &lt;i&gt;supposed&lt;/i&gt; to work.  It is expected that a new revision of T.38 will be made available next year with better definitions.  And, you're definitely encouraged to contribute.  Part of the work is going on in the &lt;a href="http://www.sipforum.org/"&gt;SIP Forum&lt;/a&gt; (where I'm engaged).  Some of the work is going on in the &lt;a href="http://www.itu.int/"&gt;ITU&lt;/a&gt; (in which I am indirectly involved).  I just recently learned that &lt;a href="http://www.i3forum.org"&gt;i3 Forum&lt;/a&gt; is also doing work in this area.&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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    <author><name>d.kochmashev</name></author>
    <title type="text">t38FaxMaxDatagram (H.245)</title>
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    <updated>2009-12-18T07:02:18Z</updated>
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    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Paul, please help me to understand the correct meaning of t38FaxMaxDatagram. When using UDP TL does this parameter define the maximum UDP data size which receiver CAN process? If receiver sets t38FaxMaxDatagram = 72 should sender transmit UDP packets with no more than 72 bytes of data?&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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    <author><name>paulej</name></author>
    <title type="text">SIP Forum T.38 Problem Statement</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-22T07:27:58Z</updated>
    <published>2009-11-22T07:27:58Z</published>
    <category term="T.38 / Fax over IP (FoIP) and V.150-series / Modem over IP (MoIP)"/>
    <content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Folks,&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
You might find this interesting:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;a href="http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-jones-sip-forum-fax-problem-statement-00.txt"&gt;http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-jones-sip-forum-fax-problem-statement-00.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
If fax is of interest to you, perhaps you might want to get involved in the SIP Forum's fax-related work.&lt;br/&gt;
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Paul&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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